There's no question in my mind that great service should be rewarded with a 20 percent tip or more. When service is less than satisfactory, not everyone agrees on what type of tip is deserved.MSNBC talked to business psychologist Debra Condren, who says 15 percent is the minimum for just being served, even unsatisfactorily, at a restaurant. Do you agree or disagree with her?
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i don't know - i don't think i agree that 15% is the norm no matter what
for bad bad bad terrible service in which an incident happened that really killed my meal - i'd say, no, no tip for you (this has never happened in all my life though)
for kinda bad service like the waiter was rude and service was slow, i'd still tip but maybe more like 13-15%...on the low end of things...it would depend on how much the bill was and how i rounded up but i wouldn't go out of my way to give 15%
for normal service, yes 15% is norm
and for better than usual serive, i give 18% (thats my typical number)
and sometimes 20% if its super super good or i feel they deserve it for some reason
1I am a server. I can tell you honestly that we know when we've done a good job and when we haven't. Unless we've done a bad job, you should be tipping 15%.
If this service was actually BAD (as opposed to just plain service), that's when you should start considering below 15%.
Let me tell you, there are a lot of people that think that even excellent service deserves only 10%, and it's a real b*tch to try and make money off of people like that.
2I think giving tips gives excuses to restaurant owners to underpay their employees 'cos they assume they will make good cash from tips. But anyhow.. I usually give 10 % and when they are better than OK, give them more.
3I'm not a server, but I agree with the second comment. I give 15-20% for just average, run-of-the-mill service. For good service (or average service when I'm dining with my niece and nephew, since kids meals are cheaper and kids are more difficult to deal with), I tip 20-25%. For truly bad service, I sometimes don't leave a tip, but I do talk to the manager so it doesn't seem as if I'm being horribly rude, cheap, etc. I've only done this twice in my whole life, and both times I received glaringly bad service.
4I think the question should be: what is the purpose of tipping? I've always believed that a tip is an extra "hey, you did a good job!" on top of what I'm paying for food. If the restaurant wants an extra "base pay", they should either build it into the price of food or pay the wait staff minimum wage. The very fact that I'm being served does not automatically mean a tip is required.
I actually tip pretty well (anywhere from 20-30%) when the service is decent to excellent. I have friends who have been waiters and waitresses, so I understand how hard it can get. That doesn't excuse common courtesy.
Unfortunately, I think some wait staff already have preconceived notions about who tips well and who doesn't, so there have been quite a few times that I myself or certain groups I've been with have gotten terrible service simply because of that belief ("oh, these type of people don't tip well, so it doesn't really matter whether I give them good service or not"). Subsequently, for their lazy/rude service, they don't get very good tips from me. I've only not tipped anything TWICE - once for lazy service when the restaurant was not busy, and once for rude service and not giving me back change for my bills in order to "steal" their own tip.
5I generally tip 15% for decent-but-not-great service, 20% for good service, and 25-30% for excellent service. (I also overtip at places where the food is inexpensive, because if your bill is $7 and you leave $1.05, you are being cheap.)
I've not tipped twice, and both times, I felt bad about doing it. But it was just horrible, rude, unreliable, awful service with an attitude.
6i usually tip 20% because i can calculate it in my head (move the decimal place over one space to the left, multiply that number times two). however, here's the breakdown for tipping that my brother-in-law (a former waiter) gave me: 10% base, 15% for good, 20% for excellent.
tips are called "gratuity," a thank you for a job well done. i read all these waiters/waitresses ranting about bad tips, but you're in the food service industry because you make good money getting tips! people, don't feel sorry for waiters/waitresses because the restaurant pays them less than minimum wage. that's their base pay, and they make well over minimum wage including tips. if they don't make enough tips to get over min. wage, the restaurant HAS to pay them at least min. this doesn't happen, however, because they make such good money!
7let me correct what i said above, i mentioned moving the decimal point (rather than "place") one space to the left, it should read TWO SPACES to the left. i'm a middle school math teacher on summer vacay, so my brain is totally not in school mode.
8I always tip 15% for average service (server asks at least once if you want a refill on beverages, checks in with your table more than once, doesn't screw up your drink/food orders, and is at least pleasant) and I tip 20-25% for excellent service (refills BEFORE you have to ask, asking if they can get you anything else, making sure any special requests on the food get sent to the chef, putting up with little kids that may spill stuff or make a huge mess, being very friendly and courteous and not just acting like they really don't want to be there). If I get crappy service, I tip the bare-minimum 10%. There's a reason servers get tips; it's an incentive for them to work hard and do their job.
9I rarely, if ever, tip less than 20%
If I am getting bad service, I let someone (my server, the host/hostess/manager) know. Usually they will comp drinks or dessert or something or somehow rectify the situation.
I think a big problem is that the concept of "good service" is completely subjective. Sometimes good service just means not messing up. For some of my friends, it means happy, witty banter with the server. For others, it means getting their butt kissed like they were shopping at Saks. I find it ironic that the people with the highest standards, are the ones who tip the least.
Tipping is part of the restaurant experience. If someone doesn't want to tip, get take out or make your own food.
10i understand that the servers are trying to make a living, but if they are HORRIBLE - then no - i won't even give them 15%. it's my hard earned money too - and when i go to a place that's 'full service' it's because i want my experience to be easy and relaxing, and when i have awful service and i have to wait for AGES for anything, then it's truly not worth rewarding with more than maybe 10%
11I've not tipped a few times, but the service was truly awful. I'm usually at 20% tipper for average and above service.
12As a former waitress I always tip 20% unless, like others said, it was a really bad experience -- something that was obviously in control of the server. If the food was bad or they restaurant was obviously understaffed that's not the fault of the person serving me. Most of the time you know they're trying to keep you happy because their paycheck depends on it.
I always hate the mentality of it being as a Thank You, you realize servers typically make $3-$6 as base pay? In college I made $2.35 an hour and worked at Cracker Barrel in a small town where the base customers were either elderly or in college -- neither which tip well.
One suggestion is to also take into account the size of your table. Handling your party of 10-20 people requires a bigger thank you, in my opinion, than your table of 2 or 4.
13I leave 20% if they deserve it. I know people have to live off of their tips but they should also work for it. If they never come back and check on you and see if you need anything else and are rude they they do not deserve 20%. I think there was only once that we did not tip, we went out to lunch with my sister for her birthday and it was just a horrible experience and ruined our time out so instead of leaving money for a tip we left a note that said worst service ever! I still feel kind of bad about it but it was really bad service and it was not busy and it still took us an hour to even get our food and even then my sisters hamburger was not ready! This was at TGI Fridays.
14I'm 15%-20%-0%. On par service gets 15%, better than par 20%. Below par is 0%. My standards for par are pretty low, so just don't be pushy and stuff and you'll get 15% out of me. Unfortunately, I have issued 0% a couple times in my life.
15I've been a server, too. Yes, I've made WAY below minimum wage. Yes, it sucks when you serve a huge group and they stiff you. I think 10-15% in general, 20%+ if awesome. If it sucked, you should speak with the manager and if the manager is an a-hole and won't do anything about it, then no tip.
16i used to be a server, but i really disagree that you 'should' be tipping 15% unless the service was really bad. i don't think that there should be any occasion when you 'should' actually tip at all [im not insinuating that you shouldn't tip, just that there is no rule that says you have to], unless you know you have been a really bad customer [as a way of an apology] or that they have provided outstanding service, because a tip is a reward for doing well, not something that you get anyway, that is called a wage. i never once actualyl EXPECTED a tip, because i should be doing my job well anyway, i shouldnt have to guess whether i have done well or not. but i guess maybe it works differently in america, but that is my view on it. besides all of that, there are some people who can't afford to tip, and i don't think that they should feel pressurised into doing it.
17but i also think that people SHOULDN'T be working below minimum wage, or living off their tips. i didn't get alot above minimum wage [£3.75 an hour - about 25p over minimum wage]. but if you have to live off tips, then move jobs. i realise it's easier said than done, but still, that is appalling.
18Mimo, I do agree with your point that you should be forced to tip, but it works differently in the U.S. There is a separate minimum wage for tipped employees, so tips are expected to be a part of their wage. However, employers are legally required to pay the difference between regular minimum wage and what a person is taking home. It's nearly impossible to find another serving job that pays even as well as retail jobs, but servers tend to take home more money than their counterparts in retail anyway because of the tips.
19like many others who have commented, I am a server who makes my living based off of tips. The real issue is not whether you want to leave 15%, 5%, or whatever else--the issue is that servers are not fairly compensated employees. I work just as hard for your table whether it's a busy night or a slow night, but if it's a slow night, I'm making less money. We should change the pay system so that servers are paid a fair minimum wage (not a tipped employee wage) so that guests really can leave a "thank you" for excellent service.
20I am a server, although only as a summer job. It is true that there is a separate "minimum wage" for servers- $2.65 an hour. Yes, our tips are supposed to cover that, but they dont always. Far too many people say, "Its okay if I only tip 10%, the next person will make up for it." But they dont. Also, how much you tip should in no way reflect the quality of the food. We are not the one making the food, we are only ferrying to your every request. By all means tell us if there is something wrong, but we cannot control how your food tastes. I am only thankful that in a month I will go back to school, but for many of my coworkers, this is there way of life. They need the money, and think, its only a couple dollars to you, but it could make their day.
21I HATE the whole tipping thing. Your employer should be paying you, not me... on top of what I just paid for my meal!
Because of our age my boyfriend and I are treated like little kids (we're 22) and it always feels as though we aren't as important as the middle aged or even 30 yr old couple next to us.
Once my boyfriend and I went to a restaurant where the waiter was horrible! He never checked in on us and everything took forever (even drinks). I will NOT compensate such horrible service. Instead of tipping low or not leaving anything at all, we left supermarket dollars. And it felt damn good too. I wish I could've seen the look on his face.
I just hate tipping. I barely have enough money for myself, I am not going to give it away. If you're getting any tip from me at all, be thankful.
22I should mention, we look a lot younger than our age. People constantly think we're still in high school. And I don't like that they assume we won't tip well and consequently treat us unfavorably. That plus the fact that I don't think I should be charged an extra tax for the waiter DOING THEIR JOB!
23keep in mine that servers don't make mim. wage in most states. they work for 2.16 an hour. all thought i don't believe you should reward bad behavior you should still tip but you should let the person know what they did wrong because most of the time they think they are doing a good job.
24For those of you who say you still tip even when service is bad, where in the world do you live?!?! In my neck of the woods, crappy service=no tip at all!
When me and my cousins were at TGIFriday's, it was around 3 p.m. It was practically empty and it took almost 40 minutes to get our food, and the server didn't even come back to check on us or assure us that our food was coming. Then I asked them to sing Happy Birthday to my cousin and he said OK. About 15 minutes later I asked the hostess about it and she said "oh we don't do that anymore" WTF?!?! We were pissed. And he didn't even come over to apologize or explain the misunderstanding. Another server gave us our bill, so we gave him exact change, down to the penny!
And he had kind of a sh*tty attitude throughout the few interactions we had with him, so he definitely wasn't getting a tip.
25I normally tip 15- 20%(closer to 20) for average service. I DO complain to the manager when needed and I DO send my food back if it's not done right. I also change what is on the menu to what I want OFTEN, so if the service is very good I'll leave up to 25%.
26If the service is bad I leave 10%. ONE time in my life the server was rude, the food was NOT what anyone at the table had asked for, and the meal took forty minutes to get to the table from the time we place the order(and it was a slow night.) We didn't leave a tip.
Tipping for bad service or standard service encourages staff to keep their service at that level. Therefore it only really makes sense to tip when service is good. A tip is something "extra" for something above standard service - if you tip for standard service, you're giving the waiter/ess something extra just to do their job that they get paid for in the first place, and if you tip for bad service then you're encouraging them to keep providing bad service, knowing they'll almost always get SOMETHING off someone.
27I agree exactly with bellasugar.
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