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Your Two Cents: Do Your Morals Control Your Money?

Mon, 02/04/2008 - 8:25am by SavvySugar
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There are a couple of ways you can be a conscious spender. One is to pay attention to how much you're spending, and another focuses on what you're buying with your money. We're always hearing about brands that use sweatshops, have unfair labor practices or pollute the environment. Do you avoid any stores or brands because they clash with your values?

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  • SweetnLow's picture
    SweetnLow
    1

    I really don't pay attention. Isn't that awful?! Although I wouldn't *want* to support a company that uses fur, (for example) I probably wouldn't focus on it while I was running my errands.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Swen's picture
    Swen
    3

    This isn't something I think about very often. I really have no idea what companies are better than others. If I did, I think I'd try my best to support the good companies. I think most companies are at fault though. But at this point it's hard with systems so in place, it's a very difficult situation. I feel guilty sometimes when I buy clothes, knowing how unfair the money distribution is, but it's something I think is beyond my control. There are so many other issues to devote my time to that I can actually make a difference in.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Lovely_1's picture
    Lovely_1
    4

    I try to to visit and buy things form "bad" stores...but sometimes it's unaviodable.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • gigill's picture
    gigill
    5

    I try to keep up to date on bad stores and avoid them, but sometimes budget constraints/time forces me to go for the cheap stuff. I figure it's already there anyway, so I might as well get it if I can't find a better/affordable alternative. Terrible attitude - I know!

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • KansasNutmeg's picture
    KansasNutmeg
    6

    I hate to shop at Walmart and try my best to avoid it. While its incredibly convenient and cheap, it seems to be ruining our society and taking jobs away from individual entrapreneurs.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • gigill's picture
    gigill
    7

    Also, it's pretty hard...almost unavoidable to buy non-sweatshop/factory stuff. I remember hearing on the radio about a couple who were only allowed to purchase items that weren't made in China...and damn did they ever struggle to find some items. It's doable, but it sounded really difficult! I think you really have to commit to be able to do something like that.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • cubadog's picture
    cubadog
    8

    I wish I could say yes but it is way too hard to live up to that expectation. Fortunately Walmart is not an option where I live; I would have to drive 45 minutes out of the way to get to one. They have been run out of Portland and many of the suburbs whenever they try to build they are defnitely unwelcome here. I also work for an athletic company that is constantly being accused of using sweatshops and I always laugh when people say they won't buy the brand because of the factories they use and instead buy a competitor that BTW is made in the same factory.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • kissmesteph's picture
    kissmesteph
    9

    I try my best to avoid stores/chains that are known for poor business practices. While I don't necessarily avoid purchasing things that are made in certain countries (like China for instance), I think it's important that we stop supporting stores that are known for using sweatshops and for treating their employees badly.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • AbigailElise's picture
    AbigailElise
    10

    I try not to purchase items from countries with shady labor practices. I also just read an eye-opening article about designer knock offs and the child slaves that create fake handbags, shoes and accessories. I know that a knock off Chanel bag sure looks good, but I am now vehemently against buying such items.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • i am elle's picture
    i am elle
    11

    I try to be conscientious about things like this. I've stopped going to Walmart & try to avoid it as much as I can. I also try to buy things made in the U.S., but honestly I don't always check. Money plays a huge factor as well, & it's easier to go the cheaper route. But I try!

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • chancleta's picture
    chancleta
    12

    i pay some attention and try to shop in smaller places or places with good business practices but it's not a huge deal for me

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • mandy_frost's picture
    mandy_frost
    13

    My answer is mostly, yes. However, it is somewhat impossible to entirely avoid all "bad" stores. I think it is incredibly important to shop at only stores that support your values. I will not shop at Wal-Mart for instance, but I will go to Target which is better for a number of reasons, but it does have its downfalls as well.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • aimeeb's picture
    aimeeb
    14

    I'll be honest, I don't really pay attention.

    I mean I won't go somewhere that selves fur and such but as far as other things I'm not going to avoid a store all together since it's almost impossible.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • freegracefrom's picture
    freegracefrom
    15

    Savvy - you didn't give us an option to say a simple "yes"! I don't shop at places that I know get their clothes made from sweatshops. I have to admit that I did get a tote from GAP recently with a giftcard I got for Christmas, but the last I heard, they seem to be getting their act together.

    It IS hard for everyday people like us to keep aware on things like this though. Realistically, we can't keep track of what every single corporation out there is doing. Luckily, there are a few organizations that are keeping an eye on them for us like:
    - CorpWatch
    - SweatshopWatch

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • SkinnyMarie's picture
    SkinnyMarie
    16

    I am becoming more and more conscious of it. I try to avoid items made in countries that allow sweat shops. It is hard, but I will go to local stores to buy items, or be really aware of where an item is made. I have recently gotten into getting clothing from American Apparel because they make their clothing in the US (we just got them here in Pittsburgh), so every day its growing. The hardest is buying shoes that are made in the US that don't look like moccasins or are $500.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • karisaamy's picture
    karisaamy
    17

    I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart because of their practices, I actaully got a gift card there once (someone who really didn't know me) and I gave it to a homeless guy who was near the Wal-Mart. He was thrilled with it. I try not to buy things from "bad" brands, but it's hard to keep up with it.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • mayara's picture
    mayara
    18

    I do to some degree. I usually avoid Wal-Mart, but we do get some things from Sam's Club from time to time. I try to balance things based on a combination of what I know about various companies, my own values, and the convenience/price.

    As for other money matters, I do try to do mostly socially responsible investing for my investments, which allows me to feel better about how my money is being made. My husband and I both would rather have a little smaller budget when we retire than be filthy rich off of some types of businesses or business practices.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • AKirstin's picture
    AKirstin
    19

    I do try to pay attention and spend my money in ways that heal rather than harm, but there are times when I have to be realistic and some things- like organic foods- are outside my price range, period.

    48 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • popgoestheworld's picture
    popgoestheworld
    20

    This is another poll where "I don't pay attention" and "I just go where it's most convenient" are basically the same option. I was thinking there would be an option for YES but I guess I was too hopeful.

    Savvy, perhaps you can post some sources for us consumers that we can use to analyze how well a company fits with our morals?

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • MandyJoBo's picture
    MandyJoBo
    21

    OMG! There's not "yes" option. I do avoid stores with shady practices. After watching Blood Diamond, I make sure my diamonds are ethical. I even read up on companies such as Kraft and Johnsons & Johnsons. There is a website that lists companies and tells you how they treat their employees - everything from what the CEO makes to how much they donate. I forgot the name of it though. I don't buy leather unless my fiance or a friend who normally eats meat will agree to not eat meat for a month or more depending on size of item. I don't buy fur, obviously. As for companies that use animal testing, they are still more common than not, so it's harder to avoid those. And of course I'm not perfect - I don't know what company made the dye in my clothes and how ethical they are. Eye-wink

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • emalove's picture
    emalove
    22

    I don't shop at Walmart, that's really the only place that I "boycott". Growing up, my father always talked about how they're taking over America and destroying smaller businesses; it was just not a place that we shopped at. In recent years, hearing about the way they treat their employees has also turned me off. I much prefer Target. I'd even go to Kmart before I'd go to Walmart.

    I'm sure there are other stores that are "bad" to shop at too, I just don't know what they are. If I hear something about a store that rubs me the wrong way, I usually won't give them my business.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • Stacey Cakes's picture
    Stacey Cakes
    23

    The only store I boycott is Walmart. After taking an employment law class last year, I was horrified by how they treat their workers and how so many of their practices violate laws.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • amers230's picture
    amers230
    24

    i'd like to say yes, but i really don't. the only store i specifically don't shop at if possible is walmart. i'd like to say it's for ethical reasons, and a little bit is, but my family are avid sam's club shoppers and i don't seem to have a problem with that. we did just get a costco in the area so my mom and i are going to check that out hopefully this weekend. i pretty much just don't shop at walmart because i always feel kind of sleazy/dirty in there, don't ask me why. i do try to always do grocery shopping at meijers since they are a MI company, but i've never really done research on whether or not they are a good company.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • wackdoodle's picture
    wackdoodle
    25

    Your missing a flat out YES category.

    Yes, my "morals" determine where I spend my money - I do not shop at number of retailers and I do not buy a great number of products because of a companies policies and actions. Companies that put profits above people and safety do always lose my business. AS an example: I will and do spend my time and pay more and travel out of my way to go to a specific gas station because I know that the company that supplies that gas treats its workers fairly at refineries and the workers on the ships transporting the crude, and the workers in the oil field and they are making an effort to do as little destruction as possible when drilling for crude. If that requires more effort on my part then I do it. I don't care if its an apple or a t-shirt or a car or a q-tip.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • SavvySugar's picture
    SavvySugar
    26

    I can't believe I overlooked including a 'Yes' category and apologize to those of you that shop so conscientiously. Kudos to you!

    xo,
    Savvy

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • looseseal's picture
    looseseal
    28

    I love buying things straight from people that made them. Like clothing and things from small independent designers, food from local farms, etc. It's not just a matter of avoiding bad businesses.

    It'd be good to be able to avoid every business with questionable practices, but even just shifting some spending over to the good businesses will have an effect if enough people do it.

    As they say, money talks.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • snowbunny11's picture
    snowbunny11
    29

    Well...another vote for "yes"! Obviously no one is perfect and not only that we can't really know what goes in to making the things we buy, but I can answer that "yes, my morals do control my money." I really think that every dollar I spend is a vote to that company that I approve of their product and/or the means used to make the product.

    Savvy-I noticed you caught the mistake, but is there any way Sugar could experiment with just having simple "yes," "no," or "maybe/sometimes" polls? I mean, we get to explain ourselves with our comments anyway if we need to, and so much of the time I feel like the poll is, "do you think Britney's kids should be taken away from her?

    Yes-Britney is really an alien from Mars, and therefore has no way to legally be a guardian of human children."

    Maybe you vote yes because Britney's health issues are interfering with her ability to be a good parent, but you disagree about the whole alien thing.

    Anyway, I know I'm being nitpicky here and you guys are just trying to be creative, but these polls are really starting to be a little strange.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • ilanac13's picture
    ilanac13
    30

    i'm typically aware of things - and depending on what the issue is - i'll spend my money elsewhere. my boyfriend however - he takes this big stand on things and gets really upset about the means in which goods are produced - yet he also complains about the high costs of the alternatives. it's like a no win with him sometimes becuase i understand why he doesn't want to buy certain things, but he has to be willing to pay the different for the option that's more 'moral' or whatever.

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • scourtneyex's picture
    scourtneyex
    31

    i'm voting yes! i def avoid places that have poor business practices, whether they are poor labor practices, production, community relations, whatever the issue may be!

    48 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • live 4 gossip's picture
    live 4 gossip
    33

    How can i wear a diamond knowing a child may have died for that stone? I buy organic and shop local. I try to go to the little guy if possiable. BUT sometimes you have to shop for an item that a bad store has because they are the only store in town that carries the item. If my kid is sick I will go where there is a phamacy in the middle of the night to get what they need.

    47 weeks 5 days ago Report Comment
  • discocactus's picture
    discocactus
    34

    I would love to know why people think Wal-mart is more evil than Target or Kmart or any other chain similar to it. Target pays their people the same wages as Wal-mart and most other chains of it's size. They both donate money to charities and causes... I think eventually Target will be the new Wal-Mart and eventually the finger wagging will head their way as well. Also, you never hear Target execs complaining Wal-Mart's practices with vendors and how they've changed the business that they're in...probably because they benefit too. If you're going to boycott Wal-Mart you might as well boycott any large chain like it.

    47 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment

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